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"The Bible's teaching about Christ", by Viktor Rydberg (1862) (Part 18)

Publicerad 2023-09-07 21:04:00 i Den romerska och grekiska antiken, Filologi, Filosofi, Filosofins historia, Gud, Historia, Jesus, Kyrkohistoria, Teologins historia, Treenighetsläran, Viktor Rydberg,

(This is a part of an ongoing translation by me, Lars Larsen, of the romantic Swedish poet and novelist Viktor Rydberg's [1828-1895] anti-trinitarian book "Bibelns lära om Kristus" ["The Bible's teaching about Christ"], originally published 1862. This translation is building upon the seventh edition of the book, which was published 1904. I shall try to translate two pages of the 295 pages long book, every second day, or every third or fourth, spanning over a year or two; all in all about 148 posts)
 
(Part 17 can be read here)
 
(This part: More about the church fathers and 1 Jn.5:7, specifically the Latin church fathers and the dogma of the Trinity/1 Jn.5:7)
 
 
And in Facundus, an ecclesiastical scribe in the sixth century, one can read, precisely with regard to the above quote from Cyprian:
 
"Of the father, the son, and the holy spirit, the apostle John says: »three bear witness, the spirit, the water, and the blood, and the three are one», signifying with the spirit the father... This testimony by the apostle John has in the blessed Cyprian, in his book or letter about the unity, been understood to be about the father, the son, and the holy spirit.”
 
Tischendorf states that even in ancient Greek codices one finds that remark written in the margin next to 1 Jn. 5: 7 - 8, that »the spirit, the water and the blood signify the father, the son, and the holy spirit». 
 
Besides that the above quote from Augustine and Facundus shed the right light on the quote in Cyprian, they are also, in and of themselves, strong evidence against the spurious words in 1 Jn.5: 7 - 8. 
 
The supposition, that the spirit, the water, and the blood signify the father, the son and the holy spirit, were quite close at hand for the expositors of the Bible at a time, which made a limitless use of the archetypical, symbolic and allegorical interpretation.That the teats of the bride in the Song of Songs signified the old and new testament, the faces in the cherub chariots the four evangelists, David Christ, Bathsheba the church and Uria the devil - these and such sometimes unsavory offsprings of a fantastic Bible interpretation, which one still today can come across, count to some extent their ancestry from the church fathers. Others have their origins in the monk cells of the Middle Ages.
 
The originator of the spurious verse and the one who first quotes it as truly written by the apostle John, is the in history most infamous African bishop Vigilius (toward the end of the fifth century). In a work directed against the Arian Varimad, which he published under the assumed name Idacius Clarus, the following namely appears:
 
»John the evangelist says to the Parthians*: there are three that bear witness on earth: the water, the blood and the flesh, and the three are in us; and there are three that bear witness in heaven: the father, the word, and the spirit, and these three are one.(1)
 
 
 
* Vigilius had read in Augustine that John's first letter should have been written to the "Parthians". This outlandish information, which is found in Augustine's treatise »Evangelical questions», is based on a misunderstanding. In the Greek church father Clemens Alexandrinus appears namely a note that one of John's letters is written to "virgins". The word virgin is parthenos in Greek. This word Augustine, who himself admits his ignorance of Greek, might have thought means the folk name Parthian.
 
(1) In the original language: »Johannes evangelista ad Parthos Tres sunt, inquit, qui testimonium perhibent in terra, aqua sanguis et caro et tres in nobis sant;et tres sunt, qui testimonium perhibent in coelo, pater, verbum et spiritus, et hi tresunum sunt.»
 
 
 

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Född 1984 i Finland. Norrman, bor i Stockholm, Sverige. Poet, ekoteolog och ekofilosof (dock inte en akademisk någondera, fastän han studerade teologi i nästan tre år vid Åbo Akademis universitet), kallas också allmänt "Munken" (han är munk i en självgrundad klosterorden, "Den Heliga Naturens Orden"), han kallar sig själv "Skogsmannen Snigelson" och "Lasse Lushjärnan" på grund av vissa starka band till naturen och djuren, grundade bland annat genom många år av hemlöshet boende i tält, kåta, grotta och flera hyddor i Flatens naturreservat, Nackareservatet och "Kaknästornsskogen" utanför Stockholm. Han debuterade som poet 2007 med "Över floden mig", utgiven av honom själv, han har även gett ut ett ekoteologiskt verk, "Djurisk teologi. Paradisets återkomst", på Titel förlag 2010. Han har gett ut diktsamlingen "Naturens återkomst" på Fri Press förlag 2018 tillsammans med sin före detta flickvän Titti Spaltro. Lars yrken är två, städare och målare (byggnader). Just nu bor han på Attendo Herrgårdsvägen, ett psykiatrisk gruppboende för mentalsjuka i Danderyd, Stockholm. Hans adress är: Herrgårdsvägen 25, 18239 Danderyd, Sverige. Man kan nå honom i kommentarsfältet på denna blogg. Hans texter på denna blogg är utan copyright, tillhörande "Public Domain" Han är författare till texterna, om ingen nämns.

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