Something on hellish near-death experiences
I wanted to talk about NDE's and how some people have bad experience's in them. Some people say that they witness hell or see other variations of what they think us hell. Like complete blackness, people suffering and other strange things, but after some thought I've come to an idea that may give some in sight in those bad experience's. This is an idea that I came to realize back in 2016. I think that those experience's are spiritual hallucination's. I believe what is happening is that the physical body maybe causing these problems. The physical body is still alive. In the living world we spend time worrying and struggling with life issues. As we live these problems become deeper in grained in us. Almost as if developing our personality and beliefs. Dictating our actions and emotions. A dream to me is like a safe mini NDE. When we a sleep we have dreams about our anxieties, fears, and desires that we have when we are awake. The reason why we have dreams at all is because the spirit and body are interwoven as we live our lives on earth. As we sleep the spirit receives those living thoughts and is almost forced to live out those concepts and ideas in the dreams which is our living obligations and so on. This is what is happening in a bad near death experience. Since the body just died there is still faint neurological and physical energy flowing inside. This is the only way a NDE can work. Because the spirit and body are still quantumly connected. This causes the spirit to be stuck between two worlds experiencing the living and the dead. So the message that the after life wants to give you is being disrupted with the physical mind and body. Its almost like two different people arguing. In a NDE you temporally separate into two parts. One is the real you (spirit) and the other is the old you. This old you (body dying on the ground) is still in that mode of struggling, worrying and fearing. It send's these old anxieties and fears to the spirit as it try's to receive the message from the after life. So the message becomes mixed and distorted. If you believed in hell and the clichés of the bible then you will have these subconsciously inserted in you NDE. Its like a bad dream, but its occurring during the process of dying. When you fully die. Meaning the body completely dies. These bad experiences will dissipate into nothing. Because the spirit is released from old obligations (living body..life). Only in real death can you full see the reality of the after life. With no boundaries from the living world. So it's the body and the physical mind causing these bad experiences in NDE's. Your old self giving you a bad dream.. even while dying! ;) So there is nothing to fear. I believe there's no hell as I explained. There maybe a bad experience that we may have to go through before we fully die, but its all caused by the dying body, but will not last long and before we know it we will be in a nice hammock relaxing with our deceased relatives. So to speak ;)
P. S - I think that the spirits in the after life know this and used this NDE to give us messages to improve our lives. So when we return to life we can make changes and help others."
(from this article on Reddit in 2018)
It can be added that hellish NDE:s are not at all strange, thinking about how much pain the body of the NDE:er endures during the experience. Yet the hellish NDE:s are a tiny minority among all NDE:s (1), which speaks even more for the suggestion that they are nightmares, because nightmares are also only a tiny minority of our dream life at night. If they would be real experiences of a real world, then they would be more common, one would think, because so many bad people are out there in the world today, destroying nature and plaguing animals. But not even an American Vietnam warrior got a hellish near-death experience, and now I speak about the legendary Dannion Brinkley. Shouldn't he have been cast into hell, if hell existed? He who had tortured vietnamese men with gun bullets? No, he wasn't cast into hell, he met God's love and heavenly angels instead, and was completely changed by the experience.
* in this article, Paul Cohen says:
" “Are not five sparrows sold for two copper coins? And not one of them is forgotten before God. But the very hairs of your head have all been numbered. Do not fear therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows” (Luke 12:6-7 EMTV).
If God doesn’t forget the sparrows, but takes care of them, how much less does He cast off mankind, who is made in His image? God doesn’t consider mankind valuable because He looks forward to torturing the majority in an endless fiery hell. He Who knows you down to the smallest detail looks forward to the end He has in mind, a good and not the evil one liars and sinners have insisted on in their bitterness, trying to control others for their own gain.
Mary Baxter and company, you preach another Jesus, and another Gospel, and have received another spirit, other than the Jesus Christ and the Gospel Paul the apostle and all true messengers of God preach.
“For if, indeed, the one coming proclaims another Jesus, whom we have not proclaimed, or if you receive another spirit, which you did not receive, or another gospel, which you never accepted, you might well endure these” (2 Corinthians 11:4 MKJV).
Orthodox Christianity, you are foul! You are the mother of harlots, the dwelling place of demons, a prison of every unclean spirit, and a cage of every unclean bird. You have been drunk with the blood of all the prophets and martyrs of Jesus slain from the beginning of the world. At last, after so long a time, your time is finished.
“Rejoice over her, heaven, and you holy apostles and prophets; for God has avenged you on her” (Revelation 18:20 KJV).
Paul Cohen"
(1) "Near-death experiences (NDEs) with hellish content have been reported, although they are rare. The overwhelming majority of NDEs are not hellish. I would estimate that less than 2% of all NDEs shared with NDERF are hellish", this article says. It is posted at NDERF:s homepage, and this organization, NDERF, is the largest Near-Death Experience (NDE) website in the world. They have over 5000 Experiences from all over the world. So they know what they're talking about.
