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On "shared death experiences". And something on distressing near-death experiences.

Publicerad 2023-07-03 09:23:00 i Döden, Helvetet, Lidande, Livet efter döden, Nancy Evans Bush, Nära-döden upplevelser, Psykoser, Tortyr,

In this Youtube interview that Alex Ferrari (he must have a spiritual Ferrari) had with Dr. Scott Taylor,:
 
 "Studied NDEs for 30 Years and What I Discovered Gave Me GOOSEBUMPS! | Dr. Scott Taylor",
 
Taylor speaks about his shared death experience, which means that he, as an alive person, experienced and followed closely the transition of a dead person to the afterlife, in the hour of his terminal death, after which Taylor, the living person, goes back to his body, which has been fully aware of its earthly surrroundings, experiencing bilocation, being conscious in two consciousnesses at the same time. 
 
This kind of information is what you encounter when you have studied the near-death experience for a while. It is no easy to come by. And it blows your mind. 
 
This youtubevideo is one of the best and most serious videos about the near-death experience I have ever seen.
 
What touched me most in it, is that Scott Taylor says that the pretty unknown science of shared death experiences has never found an unpleasant real transition to the afterlife, or unpleasant endpoint for the terminal transition of a dead person to the afterlife, which indicates that everyone goes to the light after the real death, end up in the realm of light, saved at last. And he also says that the unpleasant near-death experiences should be explained in the light of this fact, and that these strange experiences probably happen in the border zone between the afterlife and the body, and happen to teach us something, for example learn us to ask for help (to God and other beings) when life feels hellish. He also mentions and recommends Nancy Evans Bush, who have written four books (see them here on Amazon) full of compassion, love and understanding on the topic of distressing near-death experiences, and about whom I have written before on my blogs. Bush have said (or was it Barbara Rommer) that the most usual pattern is that a distressing near-death experience is transformed into a positive one* (see this article about a book by Bush, and this text on the backcover of a book by Bush) and is a positive wake-up call for the experiencer (but not always, though). She has studied distressing near-death experiences for 30 years. 
 
I have had hellish "psychoses", and I can think that distressing near-death experiences could be something of that nature. I thought, because of an overdose of cannabis oil in 2011, that I was eternally condemned, but it was not true, I resurrected soon from that hell mentally, and saw that it was an illusion. My psyche acted out a childhood trauma of being scared to obedience with the tacit threat of eternal hell. I think something similar is what takes place in distressing near-death experiences, a whole culture of hell traumas is acting out in our psyche, in order to be able to heal, a little like the function nightmares have in our life, they make our traumas visible and understandable. 
 
 
 
* This article writes, under the subtitle "Hellish NDEs May Be The Most Transformative Of All" the following:
 

" “Changes in NDErs lives following typical NDEs are generally substantial and quite positively life-changing. These changes following NDEs have been called aftereffects. Consistent with the aftereffects of pleasant NDEs, Rommer found that frightening NDEs often result in substantial positive life changes, including a greatly reduced fear of death. Some individuals experiencing a frightening NDE even came to view it as a gift and perhaps the most important experience of their life. As with pleasant NDEs, changes following frightening NDEs may require many years to fully manifest. My review of scores of frightening NDEs leads me to be in substantial agreement with Rommer’s conclusions regarding the aftereffects of frightening NDEs… It is my feeling that this type of NDE may be among the most transformative of all, since it allows a person to see and feel the worst evil and the best good.”

— Jeffrey Long, God and the Afterlife: The Groundbreaking New Evidence for God and Near-Death Experience"

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This article writes the following: 
 
"Contrary to what we might expect, distressing NDEs often have a positive effect: “Someone who had a lifelong pattern of using emotional isolation to avoid being rejected by others, may have a distressing NDE of the eternal void, in which he realized that profound, endless isolation is not what he really wants.” (International Association for Near Death Studies, Inc.) Some people reconnect with their religion or spirituality or improve their health choices as a result."
 
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On her homepage, in this article, Nancy Evans Bush writes: "7. NDEs are not always static but may switch from unpleasant to pleasant or, less commonly, pleasant to distressing in the same NDE. People with multiple NDEs may report having a beautiful experience one time, a distressing experience the next time."
 
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This article says: "Other documented cases have been distressing in the initial phase but turned into a pleasant experience, or vice versa."
 
Thus it is not like you come to the traditional religious hell and is stuck there, like a real condemned being, condemned forever. No, the experience can often shift to a heavenly one, like what happens to people who take LSD. This is one of the most important points to learn about the hellish NDEs. My brother Björn had a LSD experience like that. 
 

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Lars Larsen

Född 1984 i Finland. Norrman, bor i Stockholm, Sverige. Poet, ekoteolog och ekofilosof (dock inte en akademisk någondera, fastän han studerade teologi i nästan tre år vid Åbo Akademis universitet), kallas också allmänt "Munken" (han är munk i en självgrundad klosterorden, "Den Heliga Naturens Orden"), han kallar sig själv "Skogsmannen Snigelson" och "Lasse Lushjärnan" på grund av vissa starka band till naturen och djuren, grundade bland annat genom många år av hemlöshet boende i tält, kåta, grotta och flera hyddor i Flatens naturreservat, Nackareservatet och "Kaknästornsskogen" utanför Stockholm. Han debuterade som poet 2007 med "Över floden mig", utgiven av honom själv, han har även gett ut ett ekoteologiskt verk, "Djurisk teologi. Paradisets återkomst", på Titel förlag 2010. Han har gett ut diktsamlingen "Naturens återkomst" på Fri Press förlag 2018 tillsammans med sin före detta flickvän Titti Spaltro. Lars yrken är två, städare och målare (byggnader). Just nu bor han på Attendo Herrgårdsvägen, ett psykiatrisk gruppboende för mentalsjuka i Danderyd, Stockholm. Hans adress är: Herrgårdsvägen 25, 18239 Danderyd, Sverige. Man kan nå honom i kommentarsfältet på denna blogg. Hans texter på denna blogg är utan copyright, tillhörande "Public Domain" Han är författare till texterna, om ingen nämns.

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